Morning Skincare Routines + Staying Sane with Politics + Tattoos: Selfie, Episode 08

We talk our morning skincare rituals, and interview Obama’s former social media manager about keep the peace when our politics collide. Caleb Gardner of the digital innovation firm 18 Coffees gives us some insight for staying sane in the midst of our current climate. Plus, to tattoo or not to tattoo? Kristen regrets not having any, and Sarah regrets the ones she has.

In this episode, we mentioned:

The new Nom Nom Paleo book

Wanna go green with your face routine? We recommend:

For luxe:

Tata Harper Regenerating Cleanser – use code whoorl10 for 10% off

One Love Organics Cleanser

MUN Anarose Toner – use code WHOORL for 15% off

Drunk Elephant Night Serum

Maya Chia Supercritical Pure Chia Face Oil

Josh Rosebrook Day Cream SPF 30

Maya Chia Eye Achiever Roller

Sarah uses facial masks at least 3-4 times a week. Some of Sarah’s favorite masks are here.

For budget:

Drunk Elephant Juju Bar

Thayers Toner

Acure Organics Marula Oil

Super 6 Serum

Hemp Seed Oil

(And Kristen still swears by Pond’s Cold Cream which Sarah believes is made of cancer and toddlers’ tears.)



  1. Sarah, I need your help! In a moment of desperation I tried Rodan + Field’s Soothe line to treat acne prone, dry yet oily skin, with random eczema break outs. IT WORKS. But, I don’t like the price, I don’t like the direct sales channel, and I’d prefer a greener product. Can you make a recommendation for an alternative regimen? I am extremely sensitive to benzoyl peroxide and salicylic acid.

    • Hi Holly! Well, if price wasn’t an issue, I would tell you that you must try the True Botanicals Clear Line. There simply is no comparison when it comes to your skin issues. You would LOVE it:

      MUN is adored by those with moody, sensitive skin. (I love it too.) I recommend trying the travel set, so you can get a feel for all the products before dishing out the moolah. It is here: If you do decide to go forward with it, be sure to use the code WHOORL to get 15% off.

      As for a less expensive alternative, I would look into Acure Organics.

      Hope this helps!

      • Holly, I bit the bullet and bought the True Botanicals Clear Trio. My 47 year old skin was breaking out more than my teenaged skin ever did. I’ve been using it for a little over 3 weeks and I’m starting to see a difference. Within the first two weeks I feel like it got worse but then right around the 3 week mark something magical happened.

    • Thank you both so much for all the skincare information! I loved listening to both of these podcasts and I’ve spent lots of time on think dirty. Just a clarifying question… for both the morning and evening, do you recommend an oil and a serum? Or just one or the other? I wasn’t sure what the best routine was regarding these two products! Thanks so much!

      • My serums are oil-based so I see the two as one in the same. 🙂 My serum and oil is the same product. Hope that helps!

  2. I know you’ve tried some beauty counter stuff, do you like any of their skincare things? I like supporting women doing their own business and I think beauty counter is doing s lot of amazing things, but I’ve never tried any of their skincare. Is there anything you like?

  3. Thank y’all so much for the skincare discussion (and the podcast in general, it is great!)! I’m trying to complete what has been a gradual switch to green skincare, and I’ve been poring over Sarah’s blog trying to piece together her current recommendations. Thanks to today’s discounts just ordered a couple more of her favorite products. Sarah, do you follow all of the same steps when you’re going to use the Gress foundation? It seems to have some active ingredients. Also, I’m trying to find replacements for two non-green products: Skin Medica’s Vitamin C + E complex and retin A (don’t judge). Any suggestions on green replacements? I’ve already gotten several things you recommend and have had great luck with all the products you’ve suggested. Most recently, I’ve started using that eye rollerball after also being an eye product skeptic and non-user forever. It is amazing! Thanks and obviously can’t wait for the segment on evening skincare!!!

    • Hi Francie! As for the Gressa foundation, yes, I complete all of the skincare steps mentioned and then apply the Gressa as my foundation. I do this in two ways. If I’m wearing the Josh Rosebrook sunscreen (that I mentioned in the podcast), I put one drop of the Gressa Foundation and one pump of sunscreen on my fingertips, mix together and then apply on my face. It’s the perfect amount of light coverage! Otherwise, I just use one drop of Gressa around my nose and cheeks. (A little goes a long way with the Gressa.) I really love combining the Gressa and Josh Rosebrook. They are a match made in heaven.

      A great replacement for the Skin Medica would be the Maya Chia Super Couple that I mentioned in the post. The astaxanthin is so good for hyperpigmentation and brightening and it is way stronger than Vitamin C.

      Another option that could work would be this! I love the smell and performance of it, but I definitely need another layer of moisture afterwards. That’s why I go with the Super Couple – kills two birds with one stone!

      So glad you love the rollerball!

      • Thanks so much! I’ve been using Uma oils (found via you and love them) but will try the Maya Chia when my stash of Uma is gone. So glad you think the Josh Rosebrook works so well with the Gressa because that was my plan. My Gressa sample is en route and am so excited to try it. Thanks again for all of your ongoing info about green beauty. My products are slowly but surely becoming all from your suggestions.

  4. Loved this episode! Wanted to let everyone know that your Mun code works in addition to any sales they have on the website – I was just able to get the Daily Face Essentials set for $136 (originally $200 for $230 worth of product)!! Hooray and THANK YOU for the discount code! Love the Mun cleanser and serum – can’t wait to try the toner 🙂

  5. Loved this episode! I’m really enjoying all the great info, tips, and advice on your podcast. Keep it coming.

  6. I’m really interested in trying salicylic acid. Is there a specific product that you use or recommend?

    • Hi Jennie, I would recommend the Drunk Elephant Night Serum: – it isn’t super “green,” but light years ahead of conventional skincare products.

      However, if you are looking to green up your routine and want natural alternatives, I would recommend looking for the ingredient willow bark in the product.

  7. Hi Sarah – love the podcast and your recommendations! What about vitamin C? I know that you are a fan of the True Botanicals powder. When/how do you use it? I used to use the Drunk Elephant Vitamin C day serum, but read that once it oxidizes it’s useless. So should you only use vitamin C in powder form? Help!

    • Thank you! Great question. Vitamin C is so fabulous for brightening hyperpigmentation and cell regeneration, but exactly what you said…it is unstable in liquid form.

      My answer to you is that yes, if I am going to use Vitamin C, I will use the True Botanicals powder mixed with an oil or serum. (Namely the Maya Chia Supercritical Chia Oil.) However, I’ve been doing lots of research on Astaxanthin (which I mentioned in the podcast), and it seems to be much more powerful than Vitamin C. With that being said, I’ve been forgoing the powder and just using the Maya Chia Super Couple Serum, which has a lot of Astaxanthin in it. My skin has been loving it and looking great, so I’m sticking with that for now!

      Hope this helps!

  8. Hi Sarah and Kristen! I am loving your podcast! It seriously gets me through my workouts, so thank you!
    Quick question for Sarah….
    Do you prefer the Maya Chia SUPERCRITICAL OR SUPER COUPLE?

    • Hi Amanda! Haha, I knew someone was going to ask me that. 😉

      Long story short. I love them both. Super Couple is much more powerful than Supercritical, so if you want bang for your buck, go with Super Couple. However, I had to work my sensitive skin up to the Super Couple. I started with it and my skin freaked out a bit, so I backed off and used the Supercritical for a few months. When I tried again a few months later, my skin LOVED the Super Couple. So I use that mostly now, unless I’m just feeling like I need something milder. Hope this helps!

  9. Thanks both for your podcast! Makes my commute a whole lot better. Such a light and fun yet informative podcast!
    Maybe I missed it- but is there a link to that that honey and mud mask you speak of Sarah? 🙂 Gimmie all the moisturizing for the winter. I looked on the mask page. Any other big moisturizing tips to get me through? Thank you thank you!!! 🙂 ps. Can’t wait for more skincare tips, love hearing you talk about it!!

    • Hi Catherine! Perfect timing. I just posted an Instagram Live video today if you want to check it out about masks/cleansers/etc.

      The mask I was referring to is The Honey Mud by May Lindstrom:

      And not to be a shopping enabler, but starting tomorrow morning, Citrine (the retailer I linked to) is doing this glam bag promotion – purchase $150+ and you receive a bag full of goodies ($200 worth!) I would totally buy the Honey Mud and something else and get all those goodies for free. I detailed everything inside the glam bag, as well as my tried-and-true products from Citrine in the video. My Instagram account is whoorl. Hope this helps!

  10. Hi! So 2 questions and the first is a stupid one (and yes, there is such a thing, lol). I’m currently using the True Botanicals Clear Trio AM and PM. When I get home from work, around 4:30, I love talking my makeup and bra off and getting into what are essentially my PJs, especially this time of year when it’s dark so early :-(. Is 4:30 too early for the PM routine? Is it better to wait until I go to bed? Party animal me can usually keep the lids open until about 9:30, lol. And second, I had ordered samples of the Gressa foundation but they were so separated in those little plastic sample containers. No real way to mix it up. Any suggestions with that?

  11. After my second baby I got rosacea, so morning skincare routine has dropped down to just adding more moisturizer. I have a more normal routine, but I had to take out all exfoliants and cut back on washing my face. I use the Acure sensitive wash, face cream, and Marula oil. The only exfoliating thing I do is face shaving as long as my skin is calm enough. It’s a different way of taking care of my skin than before.

  12. Every time I listen to your newest podcast, I feel like I am chatting with girlfriends. This was a great episode as I am 50 and not great at maintaining a skin care routine. I plan on amping it up with your tips. The podcast also instigated a great discussion with coworkers at lunch. The topic of botox came up – maybe something for a future conversation?

    Thanks for doing what you do!

  13. I just realized that Maya Chia is not the same as Mama Chia lolololol……

  14. Thank you for this helpful podcast! My skin sounds similar to yours (fair/sensitive) but I have some mild rosacea around my nose. I usually shun oils due to congestion and heaviness but I did splurge and am going to try the Maya Chia. I’m kinda over lotions/creamsthey just sit on top or cause acne… thank you for the advice! Love the podcast love your chemistry together and it’s just refreshing how fun it is to listen too!

  15. I just started listening and binging on your first episodes last week! I’m loving it! I’m 5 months PP and dealing with breakouts (still likely hormonal since I’m BFing), so I am excited to check out your recommendations. Is there any benefit to using a facial steamer? If so, how often?

  16. Hi! I love your podcast! I let my boss borrow my car, and he was subjected to the pubic hair removal episode until he drove away from the building! LOL.
    Regarding skincare – what do you recommend for age spots in the not too expensive category? I’m 51, with light olive skin that is still pretty oily and subject to breakouts.

  17. I’m loving all these recs! Have you ever tried any of the Marie Veronique products? I’m very curious about their retinol serum. Have also been eying the True Botanicals clear line. Its hard to know where to start!

  18. Love this episode and learning about products I can feel good about that won’t break the bank! I would love to hear y’alls thoughts on makeup lines as well. It feels like using “bad” (for lack of a better word) makeup that stays on your face for hours could potentially reverse some of the good done with a clean skincare routine. Maybe a thought for a future episode? 🙂

  19. I have really enjoyed the podcast. Would love you to cover the topic of dark circles under the eyes!

  20. Now that I’m past the time where I can just wipe my makeup off with baby wipes and that’s it, what is the order of operations for face care? Toner, wash, serums, etc? What order do you use them all in, and which are the most important steps to do?

  21. Loved this episode!!!! What do you do to avoid milia? I’ve had them extracted and they come back immediately ugh!

  22. Could you suggest a regime for my 15 year old daughter? She has mild acne and the dermatologist suggested some very ungreen CVS products that I do not feel great about. Thank you!!!!

  23. Literally just bought the Tata Harper Regenerating Cleanser, MUN Anarose Toner, Drunk Elephant Night Serum and the Maya Chia Supercritical Pure Chia Face Oil – excited to see how this goes! My skin is so finicky – something works for a couple weeks and then nada, but I’m been trying and sampling on my own all this time. Glad to get a highly educated recommendation for once!

  24. Nice article its very helpfull thanks for sharing

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